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Jared Polis: DOGE is ‘tearing down the old without necessarily having a more efficient way of doing it’

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Democratic Colorado Gov. Jared Polis is all for “making government more efficient” — just not the way the federal government is going about it.

That was just one of Polis’ pushbacks against the new Trump administration during Blue Light News’s Governors Summit on Thursday. Democratic governors across the country have signaled an eagerness to partner with President Donald Trump on certain issues, though they have not held back from criticizing the president in his first weeks back at the White House.

Polis — who at times has provided contrarian views to his fellow Democrats, like when he voiced support for now-Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. — indicated some common ground with the administration’s efforts to target “waste at federal agencies,” and suggested that states can learn from efforts being made at the federal level to do so.

But the current moves from Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency are “not necessarily the best way to get … a better outcome for less money,” he argued in an interview with Blue Light News’s Eugene Daniels, proposing that “a better way to do it would be more zero-based budgeting.”

“What is it that we need to accomplish with this agency? A, do we even need to accomplish it anymore, or is it counterproductive? B, if we do need to accomplish it: pretend it doesn’t exist — how do you create the most efficient possible system to do that for the least money, and to do it the best way from the ground up? And then kind of juxtapose and replace the old with the new,” he said. “The way that they seem to be doing it is just sort of tearing down the old without necessarily having a more efficient way of doing it.”

Polis, who took the helm as chair of the bipartisan National Governors Association last year, touted repealing more than 200 old state executive orders and looking to remove “unnecessary rules and regulations” in Colorado. He said that federal efforts to make “compliance easier in certain areas” would benefit states’ pushes to make their governments more efficient as well.

“We literally have employees that just sit there to comply with federal requirements, so I’d love to find a way where if they make the federal requirements easier, we can then downsize the state people that are simply filing federal paperwork as their entire jobs,” he said.

Polis also shared thoughts on other areas in which the Trump administration could be doing things differently, including on tariffs, which he called a “self-inflicted wound that would raise prices, increase inflation and destroy jobs.”

The governor is often outspoken — especially online, with his notable social media presence. (“I had to learn what commercial media was,” he said on Thursday. “I had no idea what the networks were or anything, because that’s where I live, online.”) In November, he shared his support on X for Kennedy as Trump’s HHS pick, which drew some blowback from some other Democrats.

Polis said on Thursday that he does not agree with Kennedy on “some of the nutty stuff he believes,” and clarified that he is “obviously pro-vaccine.” But he said he is “excited because he’s going to shake up HHS.”

“I hope he’s not too controlled by Republican special interests, but they need to let him go to really focus on the health of the American people,” Polis said. “I take him at his word. Obviously, I would oppose if he in any way interferes with people’s ability to protect themselves from deadly diseases. I would be among the first to criticize that.”

But despite bolstering his national presence over the years, the former member of Congress is mum on his plans for 2028. At last year’s POLITICO’s Governors Summit, Polis, who is term-limited in 2026, didn’t rule out a presidential bid. When asked about potential presidential aspirations on Thursday, he said he is “really focused on the job that I have.”

“I don’t have any plans to even think about that,” he said. When asked whether he was taking the possibility of running for president off the table, Polis responded that it “wasn’t even on the table.”

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More than a dozen staffers leave Heritage to join Pence-led nonprofit

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More than a dozen staffers at The Heritage Foundation are leaving the conservative think tank to join a nonprofit led by former Vice President Mike Pence as the embattled organization continues to reel from ongoing turmoil.

Advancing American Freedom — founded by Pence in 2021 “to defend liberty and advance policies that build a stronger America” — announced Monday that three senior officials who led the legal, economic and data teams at Heritage would be joining the group next year, along with several members of their teams.

The departures, first reported by The Wall Street Journal, mark the latest sign of upheaval at Heritage, which has seen dozens of staffers flee the organization since it became engulfed in a scandal involving Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes and the ongoing debate within the conservative movement over antisemitism.

Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts, the architect behind the “Project 2025” blueprint for President Donald Trump’s second administration, drew sharp rebukes from conservative voices, including commentator Ben Shapiro, after standing by conservative commentator Tucker Carlson’s friendly interview with Fuentes in October.

In the wake of the initial backlash, Roberts told staffers he’d make a “mistake,” but asked for the chance to “clean it up” during a November all-staff meeting, according to a leaked video first published by the Washington Free Beacon.

The hires by Advancing American Freedom signal that the organization is looking to position itself as a key player within the broader conservative movement.

“AAF is honored to welcome these principled conservative scholars to the team,” Pence, who has been the target of Trump’s ire since the former vice president certified the 2020 election results, said in a statement. “They bring a wealth of experience, a love of country, and a deep commitment to the Constitution and Conservative Movement that will further the cause of liberty.”

Andrew Olivastro, chief advancement officer at The Heritage Foundation, said in a Monday statement that the think tank’s “mission is unchanged, and our leadership is strong and decisive.”

“Heritage has always welcomed debate, but alignment on mission and loyalty to the institution are non-negotiable. A handful of staff chose a different path — some through disruption, others through disloyalty,” Olivastro said.

In his statement, Olivastro said several of the departing staffers were “terminated for conduct inconsistent with Heritage’s mission and standards” last week, adding that “Their departures clear the way for a stronger, more focused team.”

Former Heritage Vice President John Malcolm is slated to lead AAF’s new Edwin Meese III Institute for the Rule of Law, which is being relocated from Heritage. Jessica Reinsch, formerly deputy director of programs at the Meese Center, will serve as director of programs, and five other former employees at Heritage will also join AAF’s Meese Institute.

Five staffers from Heritage’s economic policy institute and its federal budget center will join AAF’s Plymouth Institute for Free Enterprise, and former Heritage’s Chief Statistician Kevin Dayaratna will lead its Center for Statistical Modeling & Scientific Analysis.

Josh Blackman, a legal scholar who contributed to Project 2025, also resigned his post as senior editor of the Heritage Guide to the Constitution on Sunday. In his resignation letter, Blackman wrote that Roberts’ remarks “were a huge unforced blunder, and gave aid and comfort to the rising tide of antisemitism on the right,” in addition to undermining the work of the Meese Center.

“Your initial remarks were indefensible. Your apology was underwhelming. And the lack of any meaningful followup over the past three months has been telling,” Blackman wrote in his letter to Roberts.

Still, some Heritage staffers have remained loyal to the organization, with conservative activist Robby Starbuck sharing Monday that he would be extending his stay as a visiting fellow at the think tank. Starbuck wrote on social media that “these resignations have a lot more to do with 2028 than it does with anything else,” accusing Blackman and others who stepped down of yearning for “a return to the Pence/Ryan GOP.”

The shock waves from the infighting at Heritage, once a key player in the MAGA coalition, have continued to reverberate throughout the GOP, with Republican firebrands like Carlson, Shapiro, Vivek Ramaswamy and Steve Bannon sparring over Fuentes and whether he had a place in the party this weekend at Turning Point’s AmericaFest in Phoenix.

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Trump critic George Conway files to run for NY House seat

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George Conway, a conservative lawyer and vocal critic of President Donald Trump, filed paperwork on Monday to run as a Democrat for the seat Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) is vacating.

News of Conway entering the race began surfacing last month, especially after Conway confirmed he had hired a Democratic pollster to weigh his chances.

Conway was previously married to Kellyanne Conway, who helped manage Trump’s 2016 presidential bid and then served in the White House during Trump’s first term.

Though George Conway was also offered a position with the administration during Trump’s first term, he declined. The relationship between the president and Conway turned contentious, with Conway often criticizing Trump and the president in turn commenting on the Conways’ marriage.

The feud ultimately culminated in Trump calling Conway a “stone cold LOSER & husband from hell” and Conway calling Trump a “fascist.” Conway went on to pen an essay that called Trump “unfit for office.”

The lawyer eventually co-founded The Lincoln Project, a PAC of former Republicans with a self-described purpose of defeating Trump, and has continued to criticize the president.

Conway will join an increasingly crowded primary race for Nadler’s seat. At least 10 hopefuls — including Jack Schlossberg, the only grandson of John F. Kennedy — have filed to run for the position since Nadler announced in September he would not seek reelection.

March for Our Lives organizer Cameron Kasky, Assemblymen Alex Bores and Micah Lasher and Councilmember Erik Bottcher have also filed to run for the Manhattan-based seat.

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CBS pulls ‘60 Minutes’ segment on notorious El Salvador prison

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CBS News abruptly pulled a “60 Minutes” investigation featuring Venezuelan men deported to El Salvador’s CECOT prison on Sunday, sparking swift backlash within the newsroom, including from the story’s veteran correspondent.

The canceled segment, yanked at the behest of newly appointed editor in chief Bari Weiss, focused on the notorious El Salvador prison that President Donald Trump has deported immigrants to despite reports of human rights violations within the prison. Several men now released from the prison were featured in the segment describing the conditions they endured within CECOT.

But Weiss nixed the segment just hours before it was set to air after calling for multiple additions, according to The New York Times, including an interview with top Trump adviser Stephen Miller or another top official in the Trump administration.

CBS said in a statement that the segment will air at a later date, and Weiss defended the decision to hold the segment in a statement to The New York Times.

“My job is to make sure that all stories we publish are the best they can be,” Weiss said. “Holding stories that aren’t ready for whatever reason — that they lack sufficient context, say, or that they are missing critical voices — happens every day in every newsroom. I look forward to airing this important piece when it’s ready.”

But Sharyn Alfonsi, the veteran correspondent on the story, condemned Weiss’ decision.

In an email obtained by The New York Times and later shared on social media by Times reporter Michael M. Grynbaum, Alfonsi told her CBS colleagues that reporters on the segment had requested comment from the White House, the Department of Homeland Security and the State Department. She added that the segment had also already undergone a rigorous review and fact-checking process.

To pull the story so close to airtime, Alfonsi said, is “not an editorial decision, it is a political one.”

“Government silence is a statement, not a VETO,” Alfonsi wrote. “Their refusal to be interviewed is a tactical maneuver designed to kill the story.”

She continued, “If the administration’s refusal to participate becomes a valid reason to spike a story, we have effectively handed them a ‘kill switch’ for any reporting they find convenient.”

Alfonsi added that if CBS’ new standard for airing a segment requires government interviews, then the government “effectively gains control over the ’60 Minutes’ broadcast.”

“We have been promoting this story on social media for days. Our viewers are expecting it,” Alfonsi wrote. “When it airs without a credible explanation, the public will correctly identify this as corporate censorship. We are trading 50 years of ‘Gold Standard’ reputation for a single week of political quiet.”

CBS did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The cancellation of “Inside CECOT” is the latest in a string of controversial moves made by the media giant this year.

In July, CBS announced a $16 million settlement with Trump, who sued the company as a private citizen following his own appearance on “60 Minutes.” It was after that settlement that the Trump administration approved Paramount Skydance’s acquisition of CBS.

Weiss, founder of The Free Press, was appointed as editor in chief by Paramount owner David Ellison in October to overhaul the newsroom.

Trump has continued to express his displeasure with CBS, but that hasn’t stopped Ellison from courting the administration’s favor as he seeks to acquire Warner Bros. Discovery.

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