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‘You’ll have to ask my husband:’ House Republicans say Hillary Clinton punted questions on Epstein
CHAPPAQUA, New York — Hillary Clinton appeared to offer little new or relevant information during her closed-door testimony Thursday for a House investigation into Jeffrey Epstein, according to Republicans who questioned her for hours — raising the stakes for them to pry revelations out of Bill Clinton when he sits for his deposition Friday.
The former secretary of state testified for roughly six hours under oath, fielding questions from members of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee about any involvement Epstein, the late financier and convicted sex offender, and longtime co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell, might have had with the Clinton Global Initiative.
Hillary Clinton reiterated that she did not recall ever meeting Epstein and that she only knew Maxwell “casually as an acquaintance.” She denied knowing anything in real time about Epstein and Maxwell’s sex trafficking offenses. In fact, she repeatedly punted questions to her husband, the former president.
“I don’t know how many times I had to say I did not know Jeffrey Epstein. I never went to his island, I never went to his homes, I never went to his offices,” she told reporters after the deposition. “So it’s on the record numerous times.”
She also complained that Republicans’ questions were “repetitive,” noting how lawmakers frequently veered off topic — asking about UFOs and the “Pizzagate” conspiracy theory that circulated among some conservatives during the 2016 U.S. presidential election, when she was the Democratic nominee.
“They asked literally the same questions over and over again, which didn’t seem to me to be very productive,” she said.
Democratic lawmakers said that proves Republicans are engaged in a political fishing expedition — Rep. Yassamin Ansari (D-Ariz.) earlier in the day called the proceedings a “clown show” — but Republican members of the committee are using the nonresponses to tee up Bill Clinton’s forthcoming deposition Friday morning.
“The number of times that she said, ‘I don’t know, you’ll have to ask my husband,’ was more than a dozen,” Oversight Chair James Comer (R-Ky.) told reporters after Hillary Clinton’s deposition concluded Thursday.
Republican Rep. Scott Perry (R-Pa.) also told reporters that any specific questions about the Clinton Global Initiative and the relationship the Clintons might have had with Epstein and Maxwell, who is currently in prison, could only be answered by Bill Clinton.
Neither of the Clintons have been accused of misconduct. Bill Clinton has maintained he was an acquaintance of Epstein’s but stopped communicating with him at least a decade before his arrest in 2019 on federal sex trafficking charges.
His spokesperson Angel Ureña also posted on social media in 2019 that Bill Clinton traveled on Epstein’s plane four times internationally in 2002 and 2003, though Secret Service details were present “on every leg of the trip.”
But Republicans are eager to make Bill Clinton their bogeyman, seizing on images of him posing with Epstein and unidentified women that are part of the files released by the Justice Department, either in response to the law passed by Congress or the subpoena issued in August by the Oversight Committee.
GOP members of the Oversight panel are also facing increasing pressure to escalate their Epstein investigation, which so far has spurred no prosecutions in the U.S. — in stark contrast to all the heads rolling across the Atlantic. The global fallout includes the recent arrests in Britain of Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, formerly known as Prince Andrew, and ex-ambassador to the U.S. Peter Mandelson, not on allegations of sex crimes but rather on suspicions of misconduct in public office.
The committee’s focus on the Clintons, however, is fueling accusations from Democrats that the GOP is deflecting from President Donald Trump’s own ties to the convicted sex offender — especially after news reports this week found the DOJ may have withheld FBI case records of allegations that Trump allegedly sexually abused a minor.
Trump has maintained he had a falling out with Epstein years before his 2019 arrest and had no part in Epstein’s criminal activities.
Speaking to reporters multiple times during breaks in Hillary Clinton’s deposition, Comer stated that the president has already answered “hundred if not thousands of questions” about his relationship with Epstein.
The Justice Department told NPR any files that were not published are privileged, duplicates or related to an ongoing investigation.
Democrats remain unimpressed.
Rep. Robert Garcia of California, the top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, appeared to suggest Thursday that Democrats would attempt to subpoena Trump next year for information, should their party reclaim the House majority in the midterms.
“This committee has now set a new precedent about talking to presidents and former presidents,” Garcia told reporters. “And we’re demanding immediately that we ask President Trump to testify in front of our committee and be deposed in front of oversight Republicans and Democrats.”
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Policy specifics are elusive as House Democrats gather to prep midterm push
LEESBURG, Virginia — House Democrats say they’re intent on putting a legislative agenda behind their midterm affordability message. They don’t know yet what’s going to be on it.
But they have gathered at a resort outside Washington to spitball some options for putting specifics behind their pledge to address Americans’ rising costs of living, with sessions devoted to utilities, housing, groceries and the “care economy.”
“We know it’s not enough to just lay out the issues and what the problems are,” said House Minority Whip Katherine Clark. “Our goal is to have simple solutions that we can put out and lay out that vision, that if you give Democrats the gavels back, this is exactly what we’re going to do.”
A few Democratic evergreens have started to emerge as consensus proposals — such as expanding the child tax credit and increasing the federal minimum wage. But by and large, the policies that most unify Democrats are simply reversing what President Donald Trump and congressional Republicans have already done.
That includes things like ending Trump’s global tariff campaign and reviving the Obamacare health insurance subsidies that lapsed this year amid Republican opposition, as well as reversing cuts to federal safety-net programs made in last year’s GOP megabill.
Rep. Suzan DelBene (D-Wash.), chair of the House Democrats’ campaign arm, said reversing the Trump tariffs is the one of the top priorities Democrats should communicate as they seek election this fall.
“He’s raised prices on people all across the country without the authority to do so,” DelBene told reporters. “But it has had an incredible impact on families all across the country and they’re doubling down on it.”
The effort to assemble a campaign agenda represents a reprise of prior efforts from a party out of power to put some specifics behind their election-year messaging. Republicans set the modern standard with their 1994 “Contract With America,” but Democrats did much the same 12 years later with their “Six for ’06” agenda and again in 2018 with “A Better Deal.”
In each of those cases, the insurgent party claimed dozens of seats and retook the majority.
This time, Democrats could have a tougher path, thanks in part to the effects of partisan gerrymandering putting fewer seats in play. Many in the party are also dubious that focusing only on an unpopular president will be enough to guarantee midterm victory.
“We can’t be just anti-Trump. We have to have an agenda,” said Rep. Debbie Dingell (D-Mich.), who described this week’s retreat as the place that “lets every Democrat have a voice in inputting what we will be rolling out this year.”
The problem for Democrats is likely to be the sheer number of voices wanting input, as well as the diversity of policy prescriptions being proposed.
Rep. Maxwell Frost (D-Fla.), a co-chair of the Democratic Policy and Communications Committee, said that Democrats, should they win the majority, would aim to move a comprehensive housing package “that will help make safe, stable, affordable housing a fundamental American right for everyone.”
But he said the details of that proposal are as yet undefined. Complicating the issue is that a bipartisan housing bill passed the House earlier this month and will get Senate consideration next week. Trump could sign a bill in the coming months, defusing the issue.
“We don’t have specifics because it’s part of what this conference is for,” Frost said Thursday, pointing to the need to expand homeownership, lower rental costs and address a “crisis” in the homeowners insurance market.
The New Democrat Coalition — a large group of free-market-oriented members — put forward one of the more robust packages of policy proposals seen at the retreat, addressing matters such as broadband connectivity and data center construction. The group’s leaders are hoping to develop their own agenda that battleground Democrats can campaign on.
“Leadership is working through how they’re narrowing their focus,” Rep. Nikki Budzinski (D-Ill.), a New Democrats vice chair, said in an interview. “We want our agenda to be what comes top of mind for them.”
The Democratic Women’s Caucus highlighted the need to address costs facing American families, particularly those having to care for both their children and their aging parents — a message that former Vice President Kamala Harris put at the center of her 2024 presidential campaign with limited success.
Rep. Suzanne Bonamici (D-Ore.) said in an interview she was not worried that the message might fall flat again.
“This is an issue that’s affecting not just kids, not just families,” she said. “It’s affecting businesses in the economy. So I’m not concerned that the message won’t get through.”
To be sure, the chances that any of the Democratic proposals would quickly become law are thin. Even if Democrats retake the House, Trump will still be president for another two years and the Senate could still be controlled by Republicans.
But Democrats are mindful that the ideas they put forward now could get real momentum if their party wins the presidency in 2028.
Back in Washington Thursday, Democratic senators joined in the effort with a Capitol Hill roundtable focused on spiking food costs.
Lawmakers and leaders of advocacy groups who appeared at the event emphasized the need to enforce antitrust laws and maintain competitive markets.
Basel Musharbash, managing attorney at the Antimonopoly Counsel, suggested Democrats push legislation to break up dominant firms in critical industries such as meatpacking, fertilizers and grocery sales, as well as to increase funding for antitrust enforcement agencies.
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Democrats demand fast turnaround of unedited transcript of Hillary Clinton’s deposition
Democratic lawmakers involved in deposing Hillary Clinton as part of a House investigation into Jeffrey Epstein want the Republican majority to release a full, unedited transcript of the interview within 24 hours, citing the limited transparency of the closed-door proceeding.
Rep. Robert Garcia of California, the top Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, made the demand during a news conference Thursday afternoon outside the Chappaqua Performing Arts Center, where the former secretary of State has been testifying for hours. Former President Bill Clinton will testify Friday.
He was joined at the microphones by Democratic Rep. Yassamin Ansari of Arizona, Rep. Wesley Bell of Missouri and Reps. Suhas Subramanyam and James Walkinshaw, both of Virginia.
The likelihood of the committee being able to publish the transcript that quickly is highly unlikely. The court reporter needs to send the transcript back to the panel after a few days, and Clinton’s legal team must then review it before it can be published, said an Oversight aide who requested anonymity to describe private committee operations.
But the committee Democrats said the transcript’s immediate release was warranted because Hillary Clinton’s request to testify publicly — instead of behind closed doors — was denied. Oversight Republicans told reporters earlier Thursday they plan to release a video of the proceedings as soon as it is approved.
Garcia also said that Hillary Clinton has so far answered all questions and has not pleaded the Fifth Amendment — and offered no information that’s been helpful to the committee investigation.
Hillary Clinton has repeatedly denied any knowledge of the criminal activities of Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, his convicted co-conspirator, and said she did not recall ever meeting Epstein.
“We are sitting through an incredibly unserious clown show of a deposition where members of Congress and the Republican Party are more concerned about getting their photo opp of Secretary Clinton than actually getting to the truth and holding anyone accountable,” Ansari told reporters.
“We have not learned one new thing,” Bell added.
Hailey Fuchs contributed to this report.
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Bernie Moreno eyes possible run for NRSC chair
Ohio Sen. Bernie Moreno is eyeing a bid to head the Senate GOP’s campaign arm for the 2028 cycle, according to two Republican senators granted anonymity to disclose private conversations.
A spokesperson for Moreno declined to comment on Moreno’s interest in leading the National Republican Senatorial Committee.
While Moreno hasn’t officially thrown his hat into the ring, he has discussed the matter with colleagues, according to the two GOP senators. And his likely bid is already getting public support.
“He’s a machine. He is always working. He’s an incredible fundraiser,” said Sen. Jim Banks (R-Ind.) about why he would back Moreno for the role.
Two other GOP senators predicted that the job is likely Moreno’s if he wants it, given that there normally isn’t a contest for the top campaign spot. But it’s possible he could have competition if he jumps in.
During a recent lunch, a member of leadership made a quip about well-connected Sen. Pete Ricketts of Nebraska potentially leading the NRSC during the 2028 cycle, according to one of the senators.
But Moreno would also bring a network of relationships to the role: He is well-liked within the Senate GOP Conference, is close with the White House and President Donald Trump, built a donor network in his pricey 2024 battle to unseat Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown, and has been a prolific fundraiser for the NRSC, which is now chaired by South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott.
Despite being not quite 14 months into his Senate career, Moreno has taken on prominent roles within the conference recently, including as one of the lead negotiators in recent health care talks. Moreno is viewed by his colleagues as ambitious and smart, with Majority Leader John Thune and other senior Republicans praising him over the past year.
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