{"id":248,"date":"2024-11-11T07:30:17","date_gmt":"2024-11-11T07:30:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bluelightnews.com\/everyone-is-talking-about-what-went-wrong-in-the-election-it-wasnt-the-polls\/"},"modified":"2024-11-11T07:30:17","modified_gmt":"2024-11-11T07:30:17","slug":"everyone-is-talking-about-what-went-wrong-in-the-election-it-wasnt-the-polls","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bluelightnews.com\/category\/politics\/everyone-is-talking-about-what-went-wrong-in-the-election-it-wasnt-the-polls\/","title":{"rendered":"Everyone is talking about what went wrong in the election. It wasn&#8217;t the polls."},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p class><a href=\"https:\/\/www.msnbc.com\/2024-presidential-election\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">On Election Night<\/a>, I was nervous.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.msnbc.com\/opinion\/msnbc-opinion\/trump-harris-2024-election-polls-challenges-rcna176467\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> I\u2019m a pollster and a former political data journalist<\/a>. I knew that if the polls whiffed again \u2014 like they did in 2020 \u2014 Americans would write off polling as irreparably broken.<\/p>\n<p class>Now, there\u2019s enough data to reach a verdict \u2014 and, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.semafor.com\/article\/11\/07\/2024\/what-the-polls-got-wrong-after-decisive-donald-trump-win\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">despite what you may have been hearing<\/a>, the polls did well. No, the data wasn\u2019t perfect, and the industry still faces long-term challenges. But we\u2019ve proven that we can get close to the mark \u2014 which is the best we can reasonably expect from polling.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ve proven that we can get close to the mark \u2014 which is the best we can reasonably expect from polling.<\/p>\n<p class>You don\u2019t have to take my word for it. Let\u2019s compare the average of pre-election polls \u2014 computed by <a href=\"https:\/\/abcnews.go.com\/538\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">FiveThirtyEight<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearpolling.com\/elections\/president\/2024\/battleground-states\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">RealClearPolitics<\/a> \u2014 to the latest results in swing states where NBC News has projected a winner.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>In Pennsylvania, the 538 average had Harris up 0.2 and the RCP average had Trump up 0.4. The latest numbers show <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/2024-elections\/pennsylvania-president-results#summary\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Trump, the projected winner, up 2.1<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>In Michigan, the 538 average had Harris up by 1 and the RCP average had her up by 0.5. The results show <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/2024-elections\/pennsylvania-president-results#summary\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Trump, the projected winner, up 1.4<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>In Wisconsin, the 538 average had Harris up by 1 and the RCP average had her up by 0.4. The results show <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/2024-elections\/wisconsin-president-results\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Trump, the projected winner, up 0.8<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>In North Carolina, the 538 average had Trump up 0.9 and the RCP average had him up 1.2.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/2024-elections\/north-carolina-president-results\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> The results show Trump, the projected winner, up 3.3<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>In Georgia, the 538 average had Trump up 0.8 and the RCP average had him up 1.3. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/2024-elections\/georgia-president-results\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The results show Trump, the projected winner, up 2.2<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>In Nevada, the 538 average had Trump up 0.3 and the RCP average had him up 0.6. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/2024-elections\/nevada-president-results\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The results show Trump, the projected winner, up 3.3<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class>In the states that decided the election, the polls were generally off by 1 to 3 points. In the national popular vote, the RCP average had Trump <a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearpolling.com\/polls\/president\/general\/2024\/trump-vs-harris\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">ahead by 0.1<\/a> and he\u2019ll likely win by 1 or 2 points. For polls \u2014 blunt instruments that typically use less than a thousand interviews to estimate how an entire state or nation feels \u2014 a 1- to 3-percentage-point error is <em>great.<\/em><\/p>\n<p class>Polls in competitive Senate races were only slightly less accurate. Some results haven\u2019t been finalized yet, but so far the key Senate races only saw two uncomfortable misses: overestimating <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/2024-election\/jacky-rosen-win-nevada-senate-election-sam-brown-rcna173878\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Democratic Sen. Jacky Rosen of Nevada<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/news\/nbcblk\/colin-allred-ted-cruz-senate-election-texas-nfl-rcna173466\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">underestimating Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas<\/a> by roughly 5 points each. In the other toss-ups where 538 and RCP computed an average, the polls missed by just a couple percentage points. Again, it\u2019s unrealistic to expect polls to nail every result \u2014 a 1- to 3-point error is about as good as it gets.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>In Nevada\u2019s Senate race, the 538 average had Rosen up 5.7 over Republican Sam Brown, and the RCP average had her up 4.9. The latest results show <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/2024-elections\/nevada-senate-results\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rosen, the projected winner, up 1.4<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>In Michigan\u2019s Senate race, the 538 average had Democrat Elissa Slotkin up 3.6 over Republican Mike Rogers, and the RCP average had her up 2.3. The results show Slotkin, the projected winner, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/2024-elections\/michigan-senate-results\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">up by 0.3<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>In Ohio, the 538 average had Republican Bernie Moreno up 0.8 over Democrat Sherrod Brown, and the RCP average had the Republican up 1.7. The results show <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/2024-elections\/ohio-senate-results\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Moreno, the projected winner, up by 4<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>In Wisconsin, the 538 average had Democrat Tammy Baldwin up 2.2 over Republican Eric Hovde, and the RCP average had her up 1.8. The results show <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/2024-elections\/wisconsin-senate-results\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Baldwin, the projected winner, up 0.9<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>In Montana, the 538 average had Republican Tim Sheehy up 6.9 over Democrat Jon Tester, and the RCP average had the Republican up 7.7. The results show <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/2024-elections\/montana-senate-results\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sheehy, the projected winner, up 7.4<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>And in Texas, the 538 average had Cruz up 4 over Democrat Colin Allred, and the RCP average had Cruz up 4.4. The results show <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/2024-elections\/texas-senate-results\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cruz, the projected winner, up 8.6<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class>These results are solid and should keep the polling industry alive. But we don\u2019t have a clean bill of health just yet.<\/p>\n<p class>Surveys are still plagued by nonresponse: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.msnbc.com\/opinion\/msnbc-opinion\/trump-harris-2024-election-polls-challenges-rcna176467\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Almost 99%<\/a> of people who are selected for a poll don\u2019t complete it. Some of the groups we need to learn about the most \u2014 young voters, Latino voters, the politically disengaged \u2014 are the toughest to poll.<\/p>\n<p>These results are solid and should keep the polling industry alive. But we don\u2019t have a clean bill of health just yet.<\/p>\n<p class>Some pollsters might also be \u201cherding.\u201d That happens when a less-than-principled pollster gets an unexpected result, they might toss it in the garbage or tinker with their statistical models until their poll matches the average. That might explain why a suspicious number of Pennsylvania polls showed Trump and Harris exactly tied.<\/p>\n<p class>And, while the polls didn\u2019t err by much, they did consistently lowball Trump by a couple points. Ideally, the polls would be unbiased \u2014 underestimating Harris roughly half the time, rather than only missing Trump voters.<\/p>\n<p class>Pollsters have partial solutions to each of these problems. We use statistical tools, such as weights, to ensure that less responsive groups are given the right amount of influence. Those same weights can create the illusion of \u201cherding\u201d \u2014 that is, some pollsters adjusted their sample to get the right number of Trump and Biden 2020 supporters, which <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/JustinWolfers\/status\/1853302488520183902\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">naturally brought their results closer to the average<\/a>. And, while the polls missed some of Trump\u2019s edge in 2024, the error was significantly smaller than in 2020.<\/p>\n<p>We don\u2019t have full solutions to these problems. Nobody knows how to transform America into a nation of eager survey-takers or how to prevent anxious, underfunded firms from subconsciously pushing their results towards the average. And we haven\u2019t found that last slice of the Trump vote. But I hope that on Tuesday, we bought our industry a little more time to solve these issues. I\u2019d like to think we earned it.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-activity-map=\"expanded-byline-article-bottom\">\n<p><span data-testid=\"byline-thumbnail\"><\/span><span data-testid=\"byline-name\">David Byler<\/span><span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>David Byler is chief of research at Noble Predictive Insights, a non-partisan polling firm anchored in the Southwest. He was previously a data columnist for the Washington Post.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.msnbc.com\/opinion\/msnbc-opinion\/polls-kamala-harris-donald-trump-rcna179236\" class=\"button purchase\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Read More<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On Election Night, I was nervous. I\u2019m a pollster and a former political data journalist. I knew that if the polls whiffed again \u2014 like they did in 2020 \u2014 Americans would write off polling as irreparably broken. Now, there\u2019s enough data to reach a verdict \u2014 and, despite what you may have been hearing, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":249,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2,4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-248","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-politics","category-trump"],"amp_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/bluelightnews.com\/category\/politics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/248","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/bluelightnews.com\/category\/politics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/bluelightnews.com\/category\/politics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bluelightnews.com\/category\/politics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bluelightnews.com\/category\/politics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=248"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/bluelightnews.com\/category\/politics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/248\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bluelightnews.com\/category\/politics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/249"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/bluelightnews.com\/category\/politics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=248"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bluelightnews.com\/category\/politics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=248"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bluelightnews.com\/category\/politics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=248"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}