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Negative signs for Gaetz as senators brush off questions amid Trump pressure

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A negative sign looms for Matt Gaetz: Nearly a dozen GOP senators won’t commit to confirming him for attorney general, saying they want to let the process play out.

And many, even if they aren’t insisting on seeing the potentially damaging House Ethics report on the recently resigned lawmaker, assume the information will have to come out.

“He’s got an uphill climb,” said Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa), a senior member of the conference who said she looked forward to meeting with Gaetz and the Judiciary Committee’s review of the nomination.

Promising to follow the vetting process doesn’t mean senators will necessarily oppose a nominee, but it’s notable given GOP senators are clearly wary of crossing President-elect Donald Trump. And it contrasts heavily with more Trump-aligned senators, many of whom have indicated they will support Gaetz no matter what. Given the litany of allegations against the Florida firebrand, including that he had sex with a minor, it leaves plenty of room for senators to opt against him later. Gaetz has denied any wrongdoing.

Meanwhile, Trump has called at least one senator personally to talk about Gaetz, and the attorney general nominee makes a few calls of his own. Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.), a member of the Judiciary Committee, said he got a call from Gaetz on Thursday evening, and Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.) said both Trump and Gaetz have called him. Cramer said Trump asked him to give Gaetz “a shot” and Cramer didn’t pick up the Gaetz call because he didn’t recognize the number.

“That was kind of the whole conversation,” Cramer said. “He’s the disrupter that the department needs. That’s the bottom line. And he doesn’t know that anybody else really will be.”

The House Ethics Committee is scheduled to meet Wednesday, as pressure intensifies on the panel to release their investigative findings about Gaetz — a report they’ve worked on for more than a year. The committee could vote to publish the report, bury it, or share it with senators. Many senators believe the report may come out in other ways if the panel tries to keep it under wraps.

Kennedy encouraged lawmakers on the committee to “follow the rules,” but added that “we live in a Washington, D.C., version of la la land and, as we all know, this place leaks like a wet paper bag.”

Incoming Senate Judiciary Chair Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) refused multiple times to say whether he’d demand access to the House Ethics report on Monday, vowing his committee’s professional staff would obtain information on Gaetz. He added that questions on the former congressman’s conduct should wait until after confirmation hearings.

“You guys are all asking me these questions that would be better asked after the hearing, then we got some answers for you,” the Iowa Republican said.

Grassley declined to answer whether he would interview cooperating witnesses on Gaetz’s alleged conduct who have spoken with the House Ethics Committee.

Senators on the Judiciary Committee conducting their own investigation seemed to be a popular Plan B among lawmakers, if the House Ethics Committee doesn’t share the report. Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.) on Monday said that though he agrees with Speaker Mike Johnson in not wanting to disrupt the “integrity” of the ethics process, he sees that as “separate from the likelihood that whatever was in there is going to be released.”

Sen. Todd Young (R-Ind.), seen as a likely swing vote, said of the prospect of seeing the Ethics report: “If I feel like I don’t have sufficient information down the road, I’ll make that known.”

Still, it’s unlikely a truncated Senate investigation would have the breadth of the unreleased House Ethics report. An attorney told ABC News on Monday that two of his clients testified to the House Ethics Committee that Gaetz paid them for sex — and one of the women added that she witnessed the then-congressman having sex with a 17-year-old minor in 2017.

There is a vocal group of GOP lawmakers who say they’ll back Trump’s nominee picks, including Gaetz, no matter what.

“I don’t know why they wouldn’t” be confirmed, said Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.), who touted his strong rapport with Gaetz as a member of the House

“I’m gonna vote for Matt Gaetz,” said Sen.-elect Jim Banks (R-Ind.), who said he didn’t need to see the Ethics findings.

Only Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) have openly questioned the selection. Any nominee will be able to lose only three votes — with Vice President-elect JD Vance breaking the tie — to secure confirmation.

Democrats, meanwhile, are still eyeing ways to usurp the nomination. Some want to try and obtain information on Gaetz from federal agencies while they still have control of the committees, but not all members of the Judiciary Committee think that’s even possible.

“He’s made the nomination, and we’ll have to go through the ordinary process in the appropriate Congress,” Sen. Peter Welch (D-Vt.) said.

Mia McCarthy contributed to this report.

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Matt Gaetz won’t be the next attorney general. Will he go back to Blue Light News?

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Matt Gaetz is out of the running for attorney general. He’s also out of a job on Capitol Hill. In Washington and Tallahassee, the question now is: Could he be back in the House in January?

The Florida Republican resigned both from his current term and preemptively from his term in the next Congress, which he just won in the November election.

“I do not intend to take the oath of office for the same office in the 119th Congress,” he wrote in a letter to Speaker Mike Johnson that was also transmitted to Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.

One thing’s clear: He can’t come back for this Congress. But if Gaetz would like to return to Capitol Hill in January and serve in the seat his Florida constituents elected him to in November, Blue Light News seems prepared to punt that decision to DeSantis and Florida’s secretary of state, Cord Byrd.

A congressional aide indicated that Gaetz’s membership status for the 119th Congress is effectively up to his home state, telling Blue Light News: “The official roll for the 119th Congress will be prepared with the Certificates of Election received from the States.”

The names provided by Florida of candidates who were “regularly elected” to the House under the state and federal laws will be eligible to take their seats in January, the aide continued.

Gaetz has not yet said publicly what he wants to do. And he did not respond to questions from Blue Light News about what his future might hold.

But if he wants to come back to Blue Light News, he may argue his assertion that he won’t serve in the new Congress may be conditional: He specified that he wouldn’t take the oath “to pursue the position of Attorney General in the Trump Administration,” which is now off the table.

This could put the spotlight on DeSantis — and Byrd, his appointee — on how they want to handle it. Notably, a special election has not yet been scheduled to fill Gaetz’s seat.

Gaetz was once tight with DeSantis, and played a key role in his first transition team back in 2018. But Gaetz remained loyal to Trump during DeSantis’ bid for president — and that shifted the relationship.

Gaetz could possibly take his seat as normal, as if his resignation never happened. Or that special election could still happen — but nothing would stop Gaetz from running in it if he wanted to come back to Washington.

It’s also possible his political future isn’t in the House. Trump’s decision to pick Sen. Marco Rubio as secretary of State will allow DeSantis to appoint someone to that plum position for the next two years, until the 2026 elections. DeSantis said he intends to name a successor by early January.

Gaetz is not considered a likely contender for the open Senate seat — but some of his allies have already floated him. And Gaetz has long been rumored to be considering a 2026 gubernatorial run, with DeSantis term-limited.

When reached by phone, Don Gaetz, a Florida state senator and Matt Gaetz’s father, said he had not had a “substantive conversation” with his son following his decision to drop his bid for attorney general and did not know whether he would attempt a return to Congress. He did add that, “I love my son and I’m proud of him.”

Several candidates had already announced their intent to run in the younger Gaetz’s 1st District, a safe Republican seat. But they may show him deference.

Republican state Rep. Michelle Salzman, who already announced a run, told Blue Light News after the news broke that she immediately reached out to Gaetz to tell him she would “fully support whatever he wants” and would “absolutely” withdraw from the race if Gaetz wanted to return to Congress.

Other Republicans who’d filed to run or said they planned to include state Rep. Joel Rudman and Bernadette Pittman, the owner and CEO of Boots on the Ground Bikers for Trump. Florida Chief Financial Officer Jimmy Patronis had also considered running, which would necessitate DeSantis appointing his replacement.

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With Gaetz gone, Trump’s troubled Pentagon nominee is in the hot seat

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Former Rep. Matt Gaetz’s abrupt withdrawal of his bid to be attorney general on Thursday could be bad news for another of President-elect Donald Trump’s picks: Pete Hegseth.

Hegseth’s nomination for Defense secretary is facing headwinds over seven-year-old allegations of sexual assault, although he was never charged. But Hegseth so far had been overshadowed by Gaetz, a flame-throwing congressional ally with numerous foes in both parties who faced his own misconduct allegations, including that he engaged in sex with a minor.

With Gaetz stepping out of contention, scrutiny could quickly shift to Hegseth after revelations that the Army veteran and former Fox News personality paid his accuser and the release on Thursday of a 22-page police report of the alleged 2017 incident in Monterey, California. Hegseth denies wrongdoing.

Indeed, Hegseth “could hide behind Gaetz” because the former lawmaker’s misconduct allegations are more far-reaching and have been in the public eye longer, a person familiar with the Trump transition said. But now, the person said, Hegseth “is at the front of the line.” The person was granted anonymity to speak candidly about Hegseth’s chances of confirmation.

There’s no sign that Republicans, four of whom would need to defect to sink Hegseth, are about to abandon the Pentagon pick. But some top Democrats, who argue Hegseth is unqualified in addition to his personal issues, are counting on closer scrutiny of his nomination.

“The spotlight will fall very heavily on him,” predicted Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.). “The combination of Gaetz’s withdrawal and the latest reports on the Monterey incident, I think, will dramatically increase scrutiny of the SecDef nominee.”

Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) argues the outlook is different from just a few hours earlier, when Gaetz was still in the picture.

Gaetz’s withdrawal “removes the distraction that maybe Trump world thought he would provide for some of the other nominees,” Blumenthal said.

The Trump team, meanwhile, appeared to be circling the wagons Thursday as Hegseth and Vice President-elect JD Vance met with Republicans on Capitol Hill, most of whom are close allies.

Hegseth also offered his defense following the meetings, telling reporters that he “was completely cleared” in the police investigation.

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Fetterman on Gaetz withdrawal: ‘I didn’t see that coming’

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Sen. John Fetterman mocked Matt Gaetz Thursday for withdrawing as Donald Trump’s attorney general pick, saying sarcastically that he “didn’t see that coming.”

“I heard a rumor that they’re going to issue a new silver dollar in his honor because he had to withdraw,” Fetterman joked. “OK, so can we freak out about that next?”

Gaetz announced Thursday he was withdrawing, saying in a social media post his nomination had become a distraction.

When the president-elect announced he tapped Gaetz to be his next attorney general last week, Fetterman called it “god-tier-level trolling.”

“People have the opportunity and they can freak out over anything and respond and if they want to do that you better pace yourself though because it’s not even Thanksgiving,” Fetterman told reporters Thursday. “We don’t have to react and take unserious things so seriously that the world is going to spin off its axis the way it is right now.”

Mia McCarthy contributed to this report.

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