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Lindsey Graham says Johnson is open to expanding Smith probe payouts
South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham is pitching fellow Republicans on expanding who can sue over the now-defunct Jack Smith investigation — and Graham claims he has a key supporter in Speaker Mike Johnson.
Graham said in a statement to Blue Light News that he had spoken with Johnson about his push to allow lawsuits from people he claims were improperly targeted by the former special counsel during his probe of the 2020 election. Johnson, he said, is amenable to expanding who can sue beyond just the handful of GOP senators who had their phone records seized.
“I had a very good conversation with Speaker Johnson who does, in my view, want to open the courthouse doors to people wronged and hold Jack Smith accountable,” Graham said. “He wants to expand the ability to sue to more people, not less, consistent with Congressional ethics rules. I share that view.”
A spokesperson for Johnson did not respond to a request for comment.
The interchamber communication is the latest turn in a monthslong saga over letting Graham and other senators sue the Justice Department for potentially millions of dollars over Smith’s decision to subpoena their phone records.
The provision was tucked into a spending bill enacted in November, prompting an uproar from Democrats and House Republicans who saw it as a case of secret self-dealing. The House in turn moved last month to insert its own provision in a separate spending bill undoing the effort — prompting the South Carolina Republican to lash out at the speaker during a floor speech last week.
Graham briefly held up the spending bill but won a commitment from Senate Majority Leader John Thune for a separate vote on an expanded provision that would allow not only senators to sue, but also other members of Congress, groups and individuals.
“We’re going to give everyone in the South Carolina delegation the chance to open the courthouse doors to conservatives who were targeted by Jack Smith and the Biden DOJ,” Graham said Thursday.
At the same time, Graham has sought to emphasize that his legislation is not aimed at self-enrichment, claiming to reporters last week that the Senate Ethics Committee confirmed he could not personally profit.
The Ethics Committee guidance, which was reviewed by Blue Light News, holds that senators are not entitled to receive monetary compensation under the original provision enacted in November but can seek a declaratory judgment and/or injunctive relief. Graham’s forthcoming legislation, his office said, will follow the committee guidelines.
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Serious investigation or ‘clown show’? Clintons’ closed testimonies on Epstein leave room for disagreement
CHAPPAQUA, New York — As House Republicans and Democrats embarked on two days of depositions with Bill and Hillary Clinton, both sides professed a seriousness of purpose to find answers that could aid their investigation into convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
They left with completely different versions of what transpired behind closed doors.
Republicans said President Donald Trump was now “exonerated.” Democrats said Trump was no such thing and called the event an “unserious clown show.” And amid dueling news conferences and social media posts throughout Thursday and Friday, the public is now left with starkly divergent narratives in a congressional probe that shows few signs of ending anytime soon.
The split screen underscores the politically fraught nature of the House investigation, which is unfolding as the electorate clamors for someone to be held accountable for the years that the sex trafficking operation of Epstein and his co-conspirator, Ghislaine Maxwell, went unchecked.
The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee spent hours grilling both Clintons — the former secretary of State on Thursday and the former president on Friday — about Epstein and Maxwell, in compliance with a pair of subpoenas issued by the panel as part of its long-running Epstein investigation.
Republican and Democratic committee members took turns chiding each other for their characterizations of the Clintons’ testimonies, while also selectively leaking comments from inside the room to support their respective party lines.
Oversight Chair James Comer (R-Ky.) said that Bill Clinton told the committee that Trump “never said anything to me to make me think he was involved” with Epstein and left Republicans confident there was no reason now to depose the president.
“From all the evidence I’ve seen, he’s been exonerated for a long time,” Comer said of Trump during a news conference Friday.
Rep. Robert Garcia of California, the top Democrat on the committee, said repeatedly the former president’s deposition Friday sets a precedent for Trump to testify under oath, and that Comer’s remarks were not an “accurate description” of Bill Clinton’s testimony.
Democrats said Bill Clinton’s deposition raised additional questions about Trump and Epstein’s falling out. Trump has long said he kicked Epstein out of his club, Mar-a-Lago in Florida, years before Epstein’s 2019 arrest on sex trafficking charges, because he “stole people that worked for me,” while the White House has said Epstein was banned “for being a creep.”
Neither of the Clintons have been accused of misconduct in connection with Epstein. Bill Clinton has maintained he was an acquaintance of Epstein’s and traveled on his plane several times internationally, while Secret Service details were present, but stopped communicating with him at least a decade before his arrest in 2019 on federal sex trafficking charges.
Trump also has not been charged with any wrongdoing. Behind closed doors, however, Bill Clinton testified that Trump told him he and Epstein had “great times together,” according to a person in the room who was granted anonymity to describe the private deposition.
Democratic Rep. Maxwell Frost said Bill Clinton testified that Trump told him the falling out with Epstein was over a land dispute.
“He’s been caught in multiple lies as it relates to his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein,” Frost said.
Bill Clinton’s office did not immediately return a request for comment. The White House referred back to an earlier statement from press secretary Karoline Leavitt, who said, “the President has always remained consistent in that he kicked Jeffrey Epstein out of his club at Mar-a-Lago because frankly, Jeffrey Epstein was a creep.”
The Republican-led committee is expected to release videos of the proceedings as soon as this weekend. Democrats on the committee requested full, unedited versions to be made public, with each side promising their version of events will then be vindicated.
Republicans are under increasing public pressure to have something to show for their investigation and are eager to find a win in the Clintons’ testimony.
Comer said Friday his panel would call in additional witnesses as part of the ongoing probe, saying lawmakers had refrained from naming any of these individuals before the Clintons’ depositions. He suggested names could be announced before the depositions of the co-executors of Epstein’s estate, which will take place in the coming weeks.
“I didn’t want to do anything that jeopardized losing them,” he told reporters Friday, referring to the Clintons.
As lawmakers left the deposition site in Chappaqua, it also appeared likely the panel would soon subpoena Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, who has faced calls to resign over revelations in the Justice Department’s materials about the extent of his relationship with Epstein. Rep Nancy Mace of South Carolina, a Republican on the Oversight panel, said she was on board.
Lutnick recently acknowledged that he visited Epstein’s island in 2012 with his family, after he previously claimed their relationship ended before Epstein was convicted in 2008 of soliciting a -r0st9t8te. Lutnick has not been accused of wrongdoing in connection with Epstein’s crimes.
“We have a lot of questions about anyone who spent time with Epstein post-conviction,” Comer told reporters when asked about calling in Lutnick to testify.
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House Oversight chair: Bill Clinton punts question to committee on whether Trump should testify in Epstein probe
Former President Bill Clinton told members of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee that it’s “for you to decide” whether to call up the current president, Donald Trump, to testify in the panel’s Jeffrey Epstein investigation, chair James Comer told reporters Friday.
“[He] went on to say that, ‘President Trump has never said anything to me to make me think he was involved and he met with Epstein,’” Comer, a Kentucky Republican, recalled Bill Clinton telling the committee during his deposition.
“I know there’s a lot of curiosity about President Trump,” Comer continued. “I thought that was an interesting thing that President Clinton said.”
But Rep. Robert Garcia of California, the top Democrat on the Oversight Committee, said in a subsequent news conference during a break in the deposition proceedings that Comer’s remarks were not an “accurate description” of Bill Clinton’s testimony.
Garcia declined to share more details, accusing Republicans of breaking the rules with their disclosures about what was being discussed inside the room. But he reiterated that Trump should be subpoenaed in the panel’s Epstein probe.
Rep. Maxwell Frost (D-Fla.) said that he now, in fact, had “new questions” about Trump’s alleged falling out with Epstein. Trump has said the two men fell out years before Epstein’s 2019 arrest and that he had no part in Epstein’s criminal activities. Trump also has not been charged with any crimes.
Bill Clinton has maintained he was an acquaintance of Epstein’s but stopped communicating with him at least a decade before the late financier’s arrest in 2019 on federal sex trafficking charges.
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, during her testimony before the committee Thursday, denied ever meeting Epstein and said she had no knowledge of his or Maxwell’s crimes.
Neither of the Clintons have been accused of wrongdoing.
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FEMA taps billions for disasters, warning Democrats of ‘dire’ shutdown impact
The Trump administration spent more than half of the balance in the nation’s disaster relief fund this week, pointing to that dwindling aid as means to pressure Democrats into yielding in DHS funding negotiations.
A FEMA spokesperson said Friday that the agency sent out more than $5 billion this week for recovery projects, including for disasters “that happened more than 15 years ago.” The withdrawal substantially shrinks cash in the disaster coffer that held $9.6 billion as of last week and appears to contradict Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem’s weekend announcement that FEMA “is scaling back to bare-minimum, life-saving operations only.”
Accusing Democrats of “playing political games” with disaster aid amid the DHS shutdown, the FEMA spokesperson warned of “dire consequences” as the disaster relief fund “is being rapidly depleted.”
It has been almost two weeks since DHS funding lapsed, and still top lawmakers and the White House are trading offers on policies to curtail the Trump administration’s immigration enforcement tactics, which Democrats are demanding as a condition of voting to fully restore agency operations.
Republicans delivered a private counteroffer late Thursday, 10 days after Democrats on Capitol Hill sent their last proposal. A White House official granted anonymity to discuss the closed-door negotiations also cited diminished disaster relief Friday, challenging Democrats to “make a move … before more Americans are harmed.”
Some Democrats on Capitol Hill have offered plans to fund FEMA and other non-immigration agencies at DHS amid the negotiations over immigration enforcement policy. But top Republicans have rejected that idea.
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