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Calling all nat sec wonks: These are the transition positions you should be paying attention to

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President-elect Donald Trump’s national security transition team is already taking shape, giving early insights into who could staff his national security and defense team once he takes office in January.

The speculation around Cabinet secretary posts is hogging a lot of attention, but lower-level appointees in the National Security Council, State Department and Pentagon could have outsized influence over the direction of Trump’s foreign policy. And transition officials often end up joining the administration in influential posts.

Here’s who’s in the room or in the mix:

The State Department 

Brian Hook, former State Department policy planner and special envoy for Iran, has been tapped to lead the State Department transition team.

The Pentagon 

Robert Wilkie, former Veterans Affairs secretary in the first Trump administration, is leading the Defense Department’s transition team.

The White House National Security Council

Joel Rayburn is expected to play a role in Trump’s NSC transition team, several people familiar with internal campaign and transition deliberations said. Rayburn was a Trump appointee for Middle East policy in the State Department and an adviser to Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.) — who is himself a leading contender to be Trump’s secretary of state.

Michael Anton is also expected to play a role, several people said. Anton was a former National Security Council spokesperson under Trump. (The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment on this or other positions.)

The intelligence community

Trump’s former director for national intelligence, John Ratcliffe, is involved in transition planning for national security policy. (Blue Light News first reported his name and others on this list last week.) Cliff Sims, who served as a deputy director of national intelligence in the first Trump administration, is also playing a leading role in national security and intelligence transition matters, according to the people familiar with internal campaign and transition matters.

Global trade issues

Trump’s former trade representative, Robert Lighthizer, and Lighthizer’s former chief of staff, Jamieson Greer, are playing a leading role in economic and international trade transition policy.

Cybersecurity

Joshua Steinman, a former Trump NSC official, is a leading contender for the NSC’s top cyber policy post. Others who could be involved in the transition’s cybersecurity team and take up top administration posts include Sean Plankey, a former NSC and Energy Department official, and Karen Evans, a former Trump Homeland Security Department official.

One key litmus test that could be a deciding factor for who joins Trump’s national security team once he takes office: Loyalty.

People close to the president-elect aren’t being subtle about how loyalty could matter above all else for job seekers in a second Trump term. As Mike Davis — a contender to be Trump’s attorney general — put it in a post on X:

“Dear Trump Job Seekers: Long time, no chat. Before asking me for help, I am going to ask you to provide me specific and concrete evidence of your łoyalty to Trump. If you cannot provide a lot of that, stop asking me. Political appointments require both competency and loyalty.”

A version of this report first appeared in National Security Daily, our guide to everything happening from the SitRoom to the E-Ring, with the inside scoop on defense, national security and foreign policy. Sign up for the newsletter to get the goods in your inbox. 

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Fetterman on Gaetz withdrawal: ‘I didn’t see that coming’

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Sen. John Fetterman mocked Matt Gaetz Thursday for withdrawing as Donald Trump’s attorney general pick, saying sarcastically that he “didn’t see that coming.”

“I heard a rumor that they’re going to issue a new silver dollar in his honor because he had to withdraw,” Fetterman joked. “OK, so can we freak out about that next?”

Gaetz announced Thursday he was withdrawing, saying in a social media post his nomination had become a distraction.

When the president-elect announced he tapped Gaetz to be his next attorney general last week, Fetterman called it “god-tier-level trolling.”

“People have the opportunity and they can freak out over anything and respond and if they want to do that you better pace yourself though because it’s not even Thanksgiving,” Fetterman told reporters Thursday. “We don’t have to react and take unserious things so seriously that the world is going to spin off its axis the way it is right now.”

Mia McCarthy contributed to this report.

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Schumer explains reported GOP deal on judges

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The office of Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer is defending a reported deal where Democrats ceded four appeals court nominations in favor of confirming more of President Joe Biden’s lower-level federal judicial appointees.

“The trade was four circuit nominees — all lacking the votes to get confirmed — for more than triple the number of additional judges moving forward,” a spokesperson for Schumer said Thursday.

Democrats have confirmed 221 of Biden’s picks for the federal courts after the Senate overwhelmingly approved Sharad Desai for a federal judicial post in Arizona on Thursday. Republicans have tried throughout the week to erect procedural hurdles to slow confirmation of more Biden judicial nominees.

President-elect Donald Trump has urged GOP senators to do everything possible to block further confirmation of judges nominated by Biden, despite Democratic control the Senate floor. The chamber will vote on the nominations of seven judicial nominees once lawmakers return after Thanksgiving.

It’s worth noting the Senate Judiciary Committee advanced the nominations of six more judicial picks, including former Rep. Anthony Brindisi (D-N.Y.), on Thursday. Those selections are expected to get chamber consideration.

Ursula Perano contributed to this report.

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GOP senators expect to meet with RFK Jr. soon

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Republican senators expect Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to soon make the rounds on Capitol Hill as he seeks to win their votes for his confirmation to be Trump’s Health and Human Services secretary.

Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.) said Thursday Kennedy was likely to journey to Blue Light News in the coming days, suggesting he’d meet with GOP senators after the Thanksgiving break.

Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.), the top Republican on the HELP Committee, confirmed there has been “some preliminary reach out” to organize the meetings. Cassidy is also a member of the Finance Committee that will ultimately decide whether to send Kennedy’s nomination to the full Senate for a vote.

Kennedy has a smoother route to confirmation than several other Trump picks. Democrats are sure to attack his vaccine skepticism and embrace of Covid-19 conspiracy theories. But his more urgent task will be to calm concerns among GOP senators about his past support for abortion rights and reassure those from farm states concerned about his desire to overhaul the U.S. food system, which could send shockwaves through the agriculture sector.

Kennedy wants to ban certain pesticides, soybean products, corn syrup and other processed items from the current U.S. food supply as part of his “Make America Healthy Again” agenda.

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), a member of the Finance and Agriculture Committees, told reporters earlier this week that he’s pushing for a meeting with Kennedy before any confirmation hearing, citing some apprehension about Kennedy’s views on food production.

“I’m willing to have a discussion with him and find out where he’s coming from,” Grassley told reporters Tuesday. “But I may have to spend a lot of time educating him about agriculture, and I’m willing to do that.”

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